well I'm sorry that John rental has uh
hung up because I would have liked to
have engaged him on some of the points
that he made the fact that Mr Blair's
Chief spokesman on Earth John Reno is
the man responsible for the story and
the man who you've just been listening
to belies uh the idea that Tony Blair is
not behind this delay uh I'm absolutely
convinced that Tony Blair is behind this
delay this is a carefully calculated
rear guard action to delay and delay uh
the finding of the truth about a war
with cataclysmic consequences almost uh
uh unimaginable consequences not just
I'm talking about The Million Dead But
the many more who are dying and will die
now as a direct result of the extremism
that the War uh begat and uh this is uh
a scandal that uh will not go away
whether they publish the the report this
year next year or in 10 years time the
people uh can draw the conclusions from
this delay that the Scandal that is in
the report is going to be Earth shaking
it's going to be State shaking in its
consequences well George you mentioned
John rental in a response potentially to
that that allegation that Tony Blair
might be the one behind holding this up
um we we've got John back and he has
heard the points that you have made John
if I bring you in now your response to
to what you've heard Mr Galloway say
there well I'm I'm I'm sorry you
introduced him as the chairman of stop
the war because I mean the stop the war
campaign is very far from wanting to
stop uh Wars that uh uh that it that it
supports Galloway let's remember that
George Galloway was expelled from the
labor party not because he wanted to
stop the war but because he wanted to
fight it on the other side
um and meanwhile uh claiming that uh
claiming that there was a million a
million dead is just wild wild
exaggeration his arguments against the
Iraq War are strong enough not not to
need that kind of uh that kind of
dishonest uh uh statistical claim uh and
he has no evidence for suggesting that
Tony Blair was is responsible for
holding up the uh the chilcott inquiry
which is an independent inquiry George
Tony Blair whose rather grubby
mouthpiece you are and it's a great
shame on the independent that they allow
you virtually weekly to continue to
defend this man who caused a million
dead in Iraq who spawned Isis who are
now cutting people's heads off and
eating their hearts all over the Middle
East is the the the main criminal in
this picture this inquiry is supposed to
be looking into how Britain was led into
this disaster it was led into it by Tony
Blair he's the one who could end up
should end up on trial in jail as a
result of This Disaster how many dead
people does it take for a British prime
minister to have to be held to account
to face the music and how many new Dead
is it going to take before John rental
stops this broken record defending this
indefensible individual John do you feel
that you are you are defending Tony
Blair because to be to be quite honest I
can't see anything in your piece today
which suggests that there's a defense
there well no I mean I was trying to in
in that article to report uh report
what's happening uh fairly and
objectively but in my role as a
commentator yes I I have defended Tony
Blair against against some of the
outrageous things that George Galloway
uh says uh I mean the point for George
Gallow to pretend that he's in any way
open-minded or might be swayed by the
findings of the chilcot inquiry is is
absolutely absurd I when when the Jil
Cott inquiry finally does see the light
of day uh I can guarantee that that
George Galloway won't won't accept any
of the findings and uh and will continue
to believe what he has always believed
is that fair George do well that seems
to suggest that John knows what's in the
chil cot inquiry report maybe he does
why don't you ask him John well no of
course I don't but I one thing I is not
one thing that I know that isn't in it
George is is the suggestion that that
Tony Blair lied to Parliament uh when he
was making the case to uh to uh take
military action against Saddam Hussein
George if the inquiry does come back and
it finds actually that the decisions to
made to go into Iraq even though they
were based on false intelligence were at
the time justifiable would your view
change Tom don't lose sight of the point
that's just been made John rental said
that I will not accept any any he said
of the conclusions of the chilot inquiry
that seems to suggest that he knows what
those conclusions are now that's a very
George it suggests that I know what your
views are and that they're completely
unreasonable well and and but that
suggests that you know that chilot isn't
going to come down on any any of the
points that I and the stop the war
Coalition are making that's quite a
revealing statement